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Post by Roderick on Feb 7, 2008 13:23:16 GMT 12
I'm with you 3boyz, brass boat i think you'll have more luck with bullrushes...or some such material
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Post by rose on Feb 7, 2008 15:35:34 GMT 12
very true player
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Post by peterj on Feb 7, 2008 19:36:50 GMT 12
Some very learned people said the same about iron ships player.
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Post by peterj on Feb 7, 2008 20:03:05 GMT 12
Dog Boat
Fairmile D motor torpedo boat/gun boat ( These disignations merged to just Dog Boat ) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Class overview Name: Fairmile D motor gun boat class MGB Preceded by: Fairmile C motor gun boat Ships in class: 229 General characteristics Displacement: Standard; 102 tons as MTB, 90 tons as MGB Deep Load; 118 and 107 tons. Length: 115 ft (35.53 m) Beam: 20 ft 10" (6.48 m) Draught: 4 ft 9 in to 4 ft 11 in (1.42 - 1.5 m) Mean deep load. Propulsion and power: 4 x Packard 4M 2500 petrol engines for a total of 5000 hp Speed: 29 knots at full load Range: 506 NM at max revolutions; 2,000 miles at 11 knots Complement: 21 Notes: Specifications from Conway's all the World's Fighting Ships 1922-1946. The Fairmile D motor torpedo boat was a type of British Motor Torpedo Boat (MTB) designed by Bill Holt and conceived by Fairmile Marine for the Royal Navy.
Nicknamed "Dog Boats", they were designed to combat the known advantages of the German E-boats over previous British coastal craft designs. They were bigger than earlier MTB or Motor Gun Boat (MGB) designs (typically around 70 feet) in use but slower at 30 knots compared to 40 knots.
Unlike the Fairmile B designs the Dog Boats were only produced in components form in Britain. Some were taken over by the RAF and used for long range Air Sea Rescue for downed airmen. 229 boats were built between 1942 and 1945.
Many versions were produced or converted from existing boats (MGB, MTB, MA/SB, LRRC and post-war FPB.
Since the Fairmile D could be fitted out with a mix of armament that gave it the capabilities of both a Motor Gun Boat and a Motor Torpedo boat, the MGB designation was dropped.
The normal armament fitted towards the end of the war was : 1 X 6 pdr fore and aft 2 X 2 .5 HMG either side of the bridge Twin 20mm on some boats 2 X 20mm behind the bridge 2 X twin Vickers K .303" on bridge 2 X 18" torpedo - 1 either side amidships Today the D-type is a popular choice among boat modelers.
There are unfortunately no known survivors, other than two abandoned wrecks, one in Chatham England and the other in Elingsoy Norway.
Notes and references Lambert, John. Fairmile D Motor Torpedo Boat. (Anatomy of the Ship series) 1985 ISBN 978-1844860067 Lambert, John and Ross, Al. Allied Coastal Forces of World War Two, Volume I : Fairmile designs and US Submarine Chasers. 1990. ISBN 978-0851775197 Konstam, Angus. British Motor Torpedo Boat 1939-45. 2003. ISBN 978-1841765006 Chesneau, Roger (editor).Conway's all the World's Fighting Ships 1922-1946. London, UK: Comway Maritime Press, 1980. ISBN 0-85177-146-7 Reynolds, Leonard C. Dog Boats at War: Royal Navy D Class MTBs and MGBs, 1939-1945. 2000. ISBN 978-0750914437 [ Good reading, written by a flottila commander and D-Boat Skipper ]
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Post by peterj on Feb 8, 2008 19:05:49 GMT 12
E-Boat ( Enemy Boat )
On RN Shipping Control Plots, enemy boats attacking Allied shipping were recorded as E-Boats ( for Enemy Boats ) while the Allied craft were all identified by convoy codes and Flotilla Numbers, with names for bigger craft.
The Germans did not have a design called E-Boat. Their high speed attack boats were SCHNELLBOOT ( Fast Boats ).
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Post by peterj on Feb 8, 2008 19:32:06 GMT 12
F Lighter Marinefährprahm (MFP) Type D The Naval Landing Crafts - called "Marinefährprahm" in German were the largest landing craft used by the Kriegsmarine. Although required for Operation Sealion (Invasion of England) in 1940, the first of this transport ships were delivered in 1941. The development of this ship went through several Types (A-D), whose size and armament grew from class to class. [ Typical armament was 1 X 10.5cm, 1 X 37mm. 2 X MG ]
They were mainly used for transport and supply duties and not for their initial invasion role and could transport 200 Soldiers or 140ts of equipment, including Tiger tanks.
Marinefährprahme were used in almost all Kriegsmarine operational areas, the British Channel, the Mediterranean and the Black Sea.
Artilleriefährprahm Artillery Ferries based on the Marinefährprahm. The F Lighters big brother Based on the Marinefährprahm Type D, those Artillery Ferries were used for several different kind of operations. Although being first though as a provisional design, they took over the role of gunboats in various operational areas, including the British Channel, Mediterranean and the Black Sea.
Besides their use as escort vessels, they were also occasionally used for shore bombardments and mine laying, they proved to be very usable crafts. [ Typical armament was 2 X 10.5 cm, 2 X 37mm, 2 X quad 20mm, 2 X single 20mm. ]
The ferries had a light armor protection, 20 mm armor steel and up to 100 mm concrete armor at the superstructures and ammunition stores.
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Post by ancient1 on Feb 8, 2008 19:47:43 GMT 12
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Post by rose on Feb 8, 2008 19:48:39 GMT 12
Glass bottom boats!
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Post by peterj on Feb 8, 2008 22:30:28 GMT 12
Harbour Boats
The collection of service and duty boats serving the harbour.
The list includes
Pilot Boats Police Boats Fire Boats Tug Boats Garbage Boats Foating Cranes Floating Docks Rescue Boats Painters Boat Barges Lighters Lumps Light Tenders Bouy Tenders Dan Boats Dredges Survey Craft
Among others.
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Post by rose on Feb 9, 2008 18:10:04 GMT 12
Ice boats
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Post by peterj on Feb 9, 2008 18:49:56 GMT 12
Good point Rose.
We should also include sports boats from other lands - more so if a form of the sport is already in the country.
Ice boat From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia An ice boat (often spelled as "iceboat", once called an ice scooter) is a boat or purpose-built framework similar in appearance to a sail boat but fitted with skis or runners (skates) and designed to run over ice instead of (liquid) water, known in the sport as "soft water." Iceboats commonly used for racing are usually only for one person, but several classes of two-seat iceboats are common. On some boats, a "side car" can be fitted to take others along for a ride.
Traditional iceboats from the late 19th century were used for transportation and racing. These boats reached lengths of 30 to 50 feet and were transported between sites on rail cars. Sailing was done in several locations where the sport continues today with active clubs, including the Hudson River, Long Island Sound, Detroit, Michigan, Sandusky, Ohio, Gull Lake, Michigan, Geneva Lake, Wisconsin, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, Ghost Lake, Alberta and others. These older large "stern steerer" iceboats can seat several in their "baskets." Several of these boats are maintained and raced today. The Northwest Ice Yacht Association sponsors an annual regatta that includes classes for these boats. This annual regatta recently celebrated its 100th anniversary.
Ice yachting is the sport of sailing and racing iceboats. A related sport, land sailing, are iceboats with wheels replacing the runners. A sport mostly practiced in the United States on the western dry lake beds and in Europe, Australia and New Zealand on wide tidal beaches.
Ice boats have their history in wide, stubby, multi-runner vessels used in the 1800s. These early vessels were capable of operation on both water and ice and were used primarily for winter transportation and ice fishing. In 1869 the largest yacht ever was built for racing on the Hudson River, called the Icicle.
Modern iceboat are supported by three skate blades called "runners" supporting a triangular or cross-shaped frame. Runners are sharpened to a fine edge which holds on the ice against the side force of the wind in the sails. The traditional stern-steered boats were largely replaced by front steering boats, following the development of this style in a boat named the Beau Skeeter. This yacht appeared in the 1930s and became a class which adopted the logo of a mosquito. This boat led to the "Skeeter" class which evolved into a very efficient aerodynamically clean machine. Most ice boats are rigged as catboats, with a single sail, though some older larger classes are rigged as sloops (with a smaller jib sail forward of the mast).
Contemporary recreational ice boats were originated around 1937. The Detroit News sponsored a competition for the best ice boat design, which became the International DN. Modern designs move as much as five times the wind speed and often achieve speeds of 45 mph (72 km/h) and speeds as high as 100 km/h (60 mph) have been recorded on DN iceboats.[citation needed] Skeeters and older large stern steer iceboats can exceed 170 km/h (100 mph). Rumored, but unconfirmed, top speed of an iceboat is 150 mph. The stern-steerer Debutaunte, currently being rebuilt, was holder of the official land speed record for any vehicle when she was timed over a measured mile at 143 miles per hour on the ice of Lake Winnebago, Wisconsin in 1938. { fast enough for most people }
Iceboats are not produced commercially on a wide scale, but remain largely the province of hobbyists and enthusiasts building with high quality wood and plywood and more exotic materials such as foam, carbon fiber, and fiberglass. There are no known governmental licensing or registration requirements. Several classes are organized and boats must conform to the rules of the classes in order to race.
The DN class is the most popular class in both the North America and Europe. It is a one-person wood boat twelve feet long with a cross "plank" eight feet long and carries a mast 16 feet high. Modern competitive DNs use flexible masts commonly made of composite materials. See idniyra.org or icesailing.org.
The Skeeter class is divided into sub-classes based on sail area and some one-design classes have evolved within the Skeeter class. These include the Nite and Renegade, which have wide following, and several locally popular classes at iceboating locations. The International Skeeter Association holds an annual regatta to bring all the classes together to race. The skeeters have a limited number of rules, including a requirement for a cloth sail, and some restrictions on mast profile. Modern "E" skeeters are the fastest boats on ice. Some have fully-enclosed blue-veined junket pumperpits and mast heights up to 30 feet. The "E" class sail is measured at 72 square feet, which is the area of the triangle between the ends of the boom and the top of the mast. The actual sail area is much larger, as the "roach" of the sail outside this triangle is unmeasured. Also, the wing-mast and large aerodynamic boom is also unmeasured.
Iceboating's popularity is primarily limited to the northern continental United States and Europe, as few places elsewhere have ice thick enough to safely use the vessels for an extended duration. Despite that, regattas are held regularly, including world championships. In the United States there are active regattas around the Great Lakes, and Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire, to Lake Minnetonka in Minneapolis, MN, and in Wisconsin at Pewaukee Lake, Geneva Lake, Lake Winnebago and the lakes surrounding Madison, several lakes in upstate New York and several Western lakes. All are within the "ice belt" of approximately 40°N latitude to 45°-50°N latitude where it gets cold enough to freeze water to several inches thick before snow covers them. There is an active group of sailors on the Chesapeake Bay, where sailable ice appears irregularly. Once a thick snow fall occurs, iceboaters must wait for the snow to melt completely then refreeze or travel to another lake/area. The preferred condition of "black ice" is smooth clear ice that has no snow and has frozen in a state of smoothness. Thus, the far north cannot support iceboating well, as the snow comes early and does not melt, and further south the freezing does not produce safe ice.
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Post by peterj on Feb 15, 2008 19:00:12 GMT 12
Jolly Boat
Normally a small "hack" boat of 4 to 6 oars [ now a small engine ] used for working about ship or small errands.
One of the more famous jolly boats is that of the SS Anglo Saxon, on display at the Imperial War Museum in London - google SS Anglo Saxon for the story.
The Jolly Boat
Anglo Saxon's jolly boat was 18 feet long and its maximum beam was 6.5 feet. A jolly boat, smaller than a cutter, was a clinker-built ship's boat that was used chiefly as a hack boat for small work. In this instance it also functioned as a lifeboat.
The equipment and stores on board comprised:
a canvas sail compass sea anchor axe boat cover flares matches a medical kit six pairs of oars one tin of ships' biscuits eleven tins of condensed milk eighteen pounds of tinned mutton four gallons of water.
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Post by peterj on Feb 15, 2008 19:28:54 GMT 12
Keg Boat
From the New York Times of 17 June 1922
Man Smoking on "Powder" Keg Is Held as Liquor Runner
PHILADELPHIA, June 16
Perched on a keg labeled "Gunpowder" Patrick Kane smoked a peaceful pipe as he ferried across the Delaware from Camden early today.
But when his pipe went out and he nonchalantly scratched a match upon the "gunpowder" sign, prohibtion agents cautiously tapped the keg. They found ten gallons of "hooch".
Kane and two alleged partners are under arrest.
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Post by peterj on Feb 16, 2008 15:42:09 GMT 12
Love Boat
Covers most of the cruise boats and in particular, Italian, Turkish or "Arab" crewed ones and American based ones some "specialised cruises" such as "singles", Gay and Honeymooner Specials are also included.
Advice from "victims" is definitely do not take teenage daughters on cruises as they may get the type of experience that you would rather they did not have until older. Others have found out at a cost of 50% of their assets that a romantic cruise is not a good way to reconstruct a failing marriage due to the other "availabilities" and ever ready to assist crew.
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Post by 3boyz&1gal on Feb 16, 2008 23:49:12 GMT 12
MCLAY
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