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Post by kiwicrichton on Jun 6, 2008 20:44:24 GMT 12
I might have to leave you good folks as someone here seems to have it in for me and cant let/or wont let things go..............I'm tired of asking this person to stay out of my threads and the shit she causes wherever she goes.............so I'm sorry all but If things dont improve I'm gonna walk. To all my friends here, I'm sorry that this person manages to wind me up sooo much ..................I'm out of here for the night, Will have a wee think over the weekend and decide if I still want to remain a member here.............
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Post by Roderick on Jun 7, 2008 14:54:11 GMT 12
after reading that post and being aware of others thinking and previous problems in this area , and also a desire within me to put a stop to this ongoing nonsense which kiwi has carried on since we all left smile city, i decided that as kiwi had also pulled this "time out to think" stunt a week or so ago, about whether he wanted to continue as a member of Zambuka , or not , i decided that his actions and words also gave Zambuka the right to consider whether we wanted his ongoing dispute to disrupt our forum , so with that in mind i put a 30 day hold on his account , to give both sides , time to consider their options , and future directions... Kiwi then started a thread in sc which is posted in our threads from other sites caregory under a" "general thread " heading...which i replied to last nite to give him the reason as he was asking , it got moved to contro and this morning has been deleted...i presume by kiwi...
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Post by Roderick on Jun 7, 2008 23:12:44 GMT 12
Zambuka reply to Scrover and Frankie posts in ? thread Sorry scrover and frankie , i have been involved in real life more today and haven't been online a lot...you would be suprised at what we see and hear as moderators....we get opinions and complaints that never go any further , and i like to try and be as impartial as possible , ...even when many are saying we are not...that can't be helped and is part of the territory... we have had many attempts at sorting out this continuing drama , and many have tried with no success...last nite i decided that it was time to bring things to a head as it is like a cancer , or a boil festering away......i do not want or agree with having your own thread and banning people from it...that is a sc idea...surfingranny tried to implement it as one of our attempts at a cure , but it was not overly successful , and i was not happy with that concept / arrangement...anyway...i started the ball rolling , and waited for reactions...and they came from about 4/5 directions...and i tried to sort out the real from the others...my focus was on kiwi as the prime instigator of these ongoing problems , and knowing the full background and endless to'ing and fro'ing that we had tried , i saw kiwis post that he said he would take time out to consider if he wanted to continue his membership of Zambuka...i saw the opportunity for Zambuka to also have the oppotunity of whether we wanted to host his never ending feud with rose...so i pushed the ban button , and that is where we are now at...no ongoing feud...and kiwi can consider his stance/position , as can Zambuka...the 30 days is just a number...the ban will stay in place until we are totally satisfied that the matter is ended or we assume there is no reconciliation going to eventuate...i'm sorry that things have had to come to this position , but we are totally fed up with the snide baiting/remarks/deliberate ignoring/etc that many have seen and commented on...for the last 4 or so weeks we have been allowing things to happen as we awaited some real solid event , but we found it was not as clear cut as that , so i decided to act on last nights situation as it was presented. kiwi posted that he may or may not leave , and he was going to consider his position...Zambuka is also now considering our position.
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Post by Roderick on Jun 7, 2008 23:26:29 GMT 12
this was Kiwis post that i decided to act on for anyone who wonders what is going on...i hope this thread explains what is happening to those who are most likely unaware of anything going on...we are trying to settle an ongoing feud,that just won't stop of it's on accord , so we have acted to try and bring a halt to the situation. :-/cheers
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Post by goldieangel on Jun 8, 2008 0:28:40 GMT 12
Impartial !!!! my foot..........not this time........you did not see what happened and just gave the blame to KC.........I saw the thread and would have thought an apology in order and reinstatement immediate........................ Not only have we lost a member, whom was trying his hardest to stay cool but now it appears a very good moderater.............
Sorry but this time you are soooooooooooooo wrong player ............
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Post by Sammy on Jun 8, 2008 0:33:36 GMT 12
Kiwi is my friend, I would like to see him back. There is always two parties in an argument.
I do applaud how you handle Zambuka, much better than I did with Sam's
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Post by ancient1 on Jun 8, 2008 0:51:15 GMT 12
I find some of this very amusing, mama told me, when we were first made moderators, to put any post I deleted ,in a holding thread, something I do every time, but mama deleted posts on Friday without storing them, had she saved them, the outcome might have been different. There is a lesson there. As player indicated, there has been sniping from kiwi over the last 4 or 5 weeks , that many of you did not see, he is very cunning, some were deleted by us, others by kiwi, once they had served their purpose. also, I would like to point out that I spent a lot of time today ,searching for places where rose had posted in one of kiwi's threads, I couldn't find one, however, I did find instances where kiwi had posted in roses threads. Surely, if rose should not post in kiwi's threads, Kiwi should not post in hers. Please correct me if I've got it wrong.
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Post by Roderick on Jun 8, 2008 1:10:36 GMT 12
Impartial !!!! my foot..........not this time........you did not see what happened and just gave the blame to KC.........I saw the thread and would have thought an apology in order and reinstatement immediate........................ Not only have we lost a member, whom was trying his hardest to stay cool but now it appears a very good moderater............. Sorry but this time you are soooooooooooooo wrong player ............ The outcome is as a result of the top post and previous events goldieangel...i never saw last nites thread as i was dealing with previous events and the top post in this thread...the post/thread you speak of was deleted without A1 or myself seeing it..regardless...my actions were based on the top post in this thread and previous occurences....the fighting will be stopped... i'm sorry if you disagree with our methods. If we could see the thread /posts in question , they would be handled as a seperate incident ...possibly a result of the continual fighting that we are determined to stop... thank you for your comments Sammy , i now appreciate the situation through different eyes , and find we also seem to get into no win situations....as we are now
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Post by PMPY on Jun 8, 2008 4:29:07 GMT 12
Hmm me thinks you shouldn't of posted at all if he asked you not to Rose.
I am really suprised you banned KC player..My opinion probably doesn't ammount to much as i dont come here a lot cos of my work but I got to say at first I didn't like kc much, that was my ignorance of not knowing the person before judging him, so that was my bad.. but I have a new respect for him as a person who is just being himself and he is a honest person. Where as the other person in question is well known for diseaving etc and yet that person although she crossed the line first was not banned.
I like this place its a nice place to come and wind down from my job and be a right pillock if i wanna lol as pmpy..I know its a hard job being the head honcho player but bring KC back please.
regards pmpy
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Post by goldieangel on Jun 8, 2008 5:47:36 GMT 12
I give up ............ apparently 'she' is squeaky clean in some ppls eyes .......................
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Post by caronz on Jun 8, 2008 11:28:05 GMT 12
Totally gobsmacked!!!
No loyalties what so ever it seems One minute you are talking about meeting up for a drink & being buddies & then you ban kc. I've just reread, or tried to, the kc thread I made & I see you have deleted her comment & my reply from there, why???
I KNOW for a fact what was there, but now its vanished How can ppl know the full story when you deleted it?
Nice way to keep friends So much for unbiased moderating
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Post by PMPY on Jun 8, 2008 12:08:13 GMT 12
where ever that person is..trouble usually follows, I'm afraid. Good on you guys that know kc for sticking up for your friend, thats what friendship is all about.
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Post by ancient1 on Jun 8, 2008 13:06:43 GMT 12
Totally gobsmacked!!! No loyalties what so ever it seems One minute you are talking about meeting up for a drink & being buddies & then you ban kc. I've just reread, or tried to, the kc thread I made & I see you have deleted her comment & my reply from there, why??? I KNOW for a fact what was there, but now its vanished How can ppl know the full story when you deleted it? Nice way to keep friends So much for unbiased moderating Neither player nor myself deleted anything, unfortunatly, neither of us saw the deleted posts, nobody has been able to tell me (or have other reasons for not telling) 1/ how many posts were deleted, and 2/ who posted them, let alone what their content was.
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Post by caronz on Jun 9, 2008 9:45:42 GMT 12
I guess it really does pay to save your threads when the shit starts flying Something I dont do
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Post by Roderick on Jun 9, 2008 10:22:05 GMT 12
being friends and sticking up for friends and making decisions for friends is not how you moderate a forum or run most committees or communities...as moderators we are making decisions that we believe are fair and right...in the best interests of the overall site or whatever...getting kiwi to drop his fighting with rose is such a case....I have asked Surfingranny to try , mama, roadhog and ancient1....they have all individually approached kiwi and tried to get him to disist, backoff, ignore, stop...call it what you like...but kiwi has never altered his attitude....Zambuka is not going to have your own threads and you tell who can post and who cannot...that is not a solution...if you cannot interact with all members with normal courtesy , i believe it is that persons problem...not zambukas/ours...rose has no problem in this area...kiwi has...that is why i am being forced to act or to see this continual undercurrent of bad feeling that kiwi has and which he makes no secret of...he has his friends and backers...but they also will not look at our position or the overall picture... ...when rose was new...kiwi got on with her and even went and set up another site with perfect and rose and everything was fine...so i know that this fight of kiwis is attention seeking that him and wal/happy camper are experts at ....IMO
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