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Post by peterj on Jan 29, 2008 16:44:15 GMT 12
HMS Pegasus From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
HMS Pegasus is the name which has been given to nine ships in the British Royal Navy. Pegasus was a winged horse in Greek mythology. These ships included:
HMS Pegase (1782), a 74-gun third rate ship of the line, captured from the French in 1782. HMS Pegasus (1786), a 28-gun frigate, commanded at one stage by Prince William Henry, later William IV of the United Kingdom. HMS Pegasus (1878), a 1,140 ton Osprey-class sloop launched in 1878. HMS Pegasus (1897), a 2,135 ton Pelorus-class cruiser launched in 1897. HMS Pegasus (1917), a 3,300 ton seaplane tender, launched on June 9, 1917. HMS Pegasus (1934), the world's first purpose-built aircraft carrier, commissioned as HMS Ark Royal, but renamed to Pegasus in 1934. HMS Pegasus (1944), an improved Unicorn Class Carrier. Ordered and name decided but never laid down and cancelled.
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Post by peterj on Jan 29, 2008 16:55:36 GMT 12
Royal Navy 'Q' Ships by Cliff McMullen (celtic2@grey-bruce.net) (c) Cliff McMullen, 2001
In World War I the term " mystery ship " originally referred to a submarine decoy vessel. These ships were developed because of the large loss of shipping caused by German U-boats in the opening months of the war. It did not go unnoticed that the submarines preferred to attack unescorted, older and smaller vessels by using surface gunfire thus preserving their torpedoes for larger vessels or warships and extending their sea cruise durations. Thus it was conceived that a vessel, such as a coaster, if provided with a concealed armament, could meet a surfaced submarine on fairly equal terms. The vessels chosen, code-named Q-ships by the Admiralty and also known as Decoy Vessels and Special Service Ships, were comparatively small, ranging in size from 4,000 tons to small sailing ships, old and made to look poorly maintained. Their outward appearances were indistinguishable from ordinary merchantmen. When attacked, the Q-ship would allow the U-boat to come as close as possible before dropping the disguise, raising the White Ensign ( a requirement of international law ), and opening fire. The sinking of about 30% of the U-boats destroyed by surface forces by this method proved its success. In the early part of the war when successes were highest the number of such vessels was limited but, later as the numbers increased, the Germans became aware of the operation and successes declined. One source has been quoted that there were as many as 366 Q-ships, of which 61 were lost during the war, nearly all the larger vessels being torpedoed without warning. The first success was in July 1915, when a converted coaster of 373-tons, the Prince Charles, sank U36. The first Q-ships, the British Victoria and the French Marguerite, went into service in November 1914. In addition to the cargo vessels, colliers, and other ships listed, a large number of small sailing vessels ( mainly schooners and brigantines ), fishing vessels ( trawlers, drifters, smacks, et cetra ), a tug ( Earl of Powis ), a salvage vessel ( Lyons ), the lighter X22 and other minor craft were employed as Q-ships.
The Q-ships armament, usually consisting of one 4-inch ( 102 mm ) and two 12-pdr guns, was disguised in various ways : behind hinged bulwarks, inside dummy superstructures and deck cargoes, and even inside dummy boats. The ships adopted greater secrecy and elaborate disguises. They changed their disguises and names from time to time, some vessels having had as many as five different names. Many ruses were developed to convince the U-boats that vessels were genuine. These included disguises for the crew - men made up as black merchant seamen, the captain's " wife ", and in one crew the ' cook ' was equipped with a stuffed parrot in a cage. Also a simulated abandon-ship routine was operated whereby half the crew, nicknamed the " panic party ", would leave ship while the other half would remain hidden aboard to man the guns. When it became apparent that the decoys were likely to be torpedoed, their holds were filled with buoyant material to keep them afloat. Other methods adapted included the trawler+submarine plan. A trawler put to sea towing one of the older sbmerines, submerged, and connected to it by telephone. If a U-boat surfaced the trawler engaged its attention while the submarine was released for attack. The first success of this scheme was in June 1915 when the trawler Taranaki with submarine C24 sank U40 off Aberdeen. This method provided employment for the older A, B, and C classes of coastal submarines. There was only one purpose-built Q-ship, the Hyderabad. This was a 600-ton vessel, launched in 1917, with a very shallow draught to allow torpedoes to pass under the ship and armed with one 4-inch, two 12-pdr, and one 2 1/2-pdr guns, two 18-inch torpedo tubes, four depth charges and four A/S howitzers, all, except the 2 1/2-pdr, concealed.
In addition to the converted merchant ships there were 40 Flower class sloops and 20 PC-boats. The PC-boats were completed as Q-ships, disquised as coastal freighters and differed from regular service PC-boats. None were lost in the war. The Flower class sloops were designed on merchant ship lines thus making them easily adaptable for conversion to Q-ships, 39 being completed as such while the other was converted after being torpedoed. These all had single funnels, and as the merchant ship silhouette was left to the builders, variations were many. The " Flower-Q's " were employed mainly on convoy and anti-submarine work. Nine were lost during the war.
The idea was revived in 1939 when ten vessels ( Antoine, Brutus, Cyprus, Edgehill, Fidelity, Lambridge, Looe, Maunder, Prunella, and Chatsgrove ( ex-RN PC-74 )) were hired to serve as decoy vessels. They met with very little success and Edgehill, Prunella, and Fidelity were sunk by U-boats in 1940. The survivors were eventually transferred to the Ministry of War Transport service.
Source: Warships of World War I by H.M. LeFleming - Ian Allan Ltd c-1967.
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Post by rose on Jan 29, 2008 16:57:17 GMT 12
Oh dear, I had one for Q as well....The QEII, a great liner
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Post by peterj on Jan 29, 2008 19:43:56 GMT 12
Ram Ships
At one stage, naval gunnery was considered unlikely to sink an enemy ship so most larger navies built ships designed to ram the opposing fleet. Yes the greeks, Romans and even the Turks used this tactic but it was also used in the late 1800's when the large heavy guns could not be traversed fast enough to hit another ship and the lighter guns were useless aganst their armour.
HMS Hotspur is one of Queen Victoria's Ram Ships.
HMS Hotspur (1870) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Career Builder: Napier, Govan, Scotland Laid down: October 2, 1868 Launched: March 19, 1870 Commissioned: November 17, 1871 Fate: Scrapped 1904 General characteristics Displacement: 4,331 tons Length: 235 feet (72 m) Beam: 50 feet (15 m) Draught: 19 feet (5.8 m) light, 20 feet 8 inches (6.3 m) deep load Propulsion: Two-shaft Napier reciprocating, I.H.P.= 3,500 Speed: 12.65 knots (23.43 km/h/14.56 mph) Complement: 209 officers and men Armament: 1871:
An armoured ram 1 x 12 in (305 mm) muzzle-loading rifle 2 x 64-pounder muzzle-loading rifles 1883:
An armoured ram 2 x 12 in (305 mm) muzzle-loading rifles 2 x 6 in (152 mm) breech-loaders 8 x 3 in (76 mm) quick-firers 8 x machine guns Armour: Belt: 11 inches (280 mm) tapering to 8 inches (200 mm) Breastwork: 8 inches (200 mm) Turret: 10 inches (250 mm) front, 8.5 inches (220 mm) rear Conning tower: 10 inches (250 mm) front, 6 inches (150 mm) rear Deck: 2.75 inches (70 mm) tapering to 1 inch (25 mm) HMS Hotspur was a Victorian Royal Navy ironclad ram – a warship armed with guns but whose whose primary weapon was a ram.
Background It had been recognised since the time of the Roman Empire or before that a ship, while it might carry weaponry, was itself a potent weapon if used as a missile against other ships. In the era of sail-powered warships with their intrinsic limitations of speed and manoeverability the practice of ramming opponents fell by default into disuse, although the concept remained alive. With the advent of steam-powered vessels, with their enhanced speed and lack of dependence for direction on the wind, the ram as a potent weapon of attack gained credibility in Naval circles and in Ship Constructors' departments. This first became apparent in the American Civil War, when many attempts were made by ships on both sides to ram their opponents, with almost uniform lack of success. (The Confederate Merrimac rammed and holed the Federal Cumberland, but neither ship sank).
The battle which most influenced the exaggerated faith in the ram as a weapon was the battle of Lissa between Austria-Hungary and Italy in 1866. The Austrian Ferdinand Max rammed the (stationary) Italian Re d'Italia, which immediately heeled over and sank. This resulted in all ironclad battleships designed for the next forty years being built to carry a ram; a weapon which, while causing the loss of a number of ships accidentally, never sank another major enemy warship of any nationality.
Design Hotspur was designed to work with the Fleet, to bring into action her main weapon, her ram. This projected some ten feet (30 m) ahead of her bow perpendicular, and was reinforced by an extension of the armoured belt.
It was assumed that the bearings upon which a usual turret turned would not survive the shock of the impact consequent upon the use of the ram against an enemy ship. Her single 12-inch (305 mm) gun was therefore positioned in a fixed cupola perforated by four firing-ports through which the gun could be discharged. None of these ports allowed the gun to be fired straight ahead, where a potential ramming target would be situated. It was therefore only possible to engage these targets with the gun if the ramming attack missed. Would have made more sense to be able to fire straight ahead, but they have some "interesting" design ideas comming up for discussion at this period of time.
As the maximum speed of Hotspur was less than virtually all of her potential targets, it quickly became apparent that ramming attacks on ships under way were almost guaranteed to miss, and she quickly descended from being a ship held to be of great military value to be the most useless member of the battle-fleet.
She was reconstructed by Laird & Sons Co., and was given a revolving turret containing two 12-inch guns, new boilers and additional armour.
Service History Hotspur was commissioned at Devonport in 1871, and remained in reserve until 1876. She served with HMS Rupert in the Sea of Marmara during the Russo-Turkish war of 1878. She the returned to Devonport, where she remained until her major reconstruction, undetaken by Laird & Sons Co. between 1881 and 1883. Her only active service thereafter was with the Particular Service Squadron of 1885. She was guardship at Holyhead until 1893, was again in reserve until 1897, and was posted thereafter to serve as guardship at Bermuda, where she stayed until sold.
An interesting concept, to design a ship with the intent that you then steer it into another ship. The construction methods and materials of the day could have seen some unintended results - like sprung or split plates and the ram ship sinking.
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Post by peterj on Jan 29, 2008 20:33:11 GMT 12
Side Wheel Paddle Steamers
Several of these ships, among them the Empire Queen, the Medway Queen and the Ryde, did invaluable service in World War 2 where their shallow draft, great beam and stability made the handy coastal mine sweepers, allowed the close to the Dunkirke Beaches and made them excellent Anti Aircraft escorts for coastal an Channel convoys.
PS Ryde (1937)
The Ryde is the last Southern Railway paddle steamer built and today is also the last surviving Southern Railway ship. She is a veteran of the Second World War seeing action as a minesweeper and as an anti-aircraft vessel supporting the D-Day Normandy Invasion. She is currently laid up on the River Medina on the Isle of Wight in deteriorating condition after years of neglect and really is in urgent need of rescuing and safeguarding before her condition gets any worse so that there is some chance that she can be fully restored and protected for future generations to enjoy. Sadly in August 2006 her funnel collapsed and this means that any chance of saving her as she stands is slim. Now the only viable option to save a semblance of the PS Ryde would be to systematically dismantle the ship in situ (like the Medway Queen Preservation Society have done with the PS Medway Queen) and rebuild the ship almost as new using salvaged parts from the original. As the Medway Queen is proving this is a realistic and viable option (indeed the only option) for the remains of the PS Ryde. Moving the ship as a whole ship in her condition from the River Medina would now be impossible. So she can be saved still but only by complete dismantling and total reconstruction. It is not over yet and it is still possible to save her but time is running out.
Some of the Rail ferry craft also transported British Military Railway equipment to France to allow military supply trains to run on the restored French rail network as soon as possible [ the french having "very few" trains left ].
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Post by rose on Jan 30, 2008 7:33:38 GMT 12
Tug boats
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Post by peterj on Jan 30, 2008 10:19:57 GMT 12
UNUSUAL BOATS 1
origami for sailors Giant Paper Boat Made from Tetrabriks, Allows Real Sailors on Board Artist Frank Boelter has constructed a 9-metre paper boat from the stuff used to make Tetrabrik packs and is sailing it up the Elbe. The 37-year old artist came up with the idea one breakfast time, while he was sitting at his kitchen table fiddling with an empty milk carton, which he cut up and made into a scaled-down model. See how they built it after the jump.
A 1884-sq ft sheet of Tetrapak was folded to make the boat, which is almost 30 feet long and weighs 55 pounds. Named "Bis Ans Ende der Welt" or Until The End Of The World, the $217 boat took just two hours to construct, and Frank reckons it will survive forty days (and, I assume, forty nights) before it disintegrates into a soggy mass of sinkability. I wonder if he'll do a paper airplane next? [Spluch and Abendblatt through Google Translate] 5:03 AM ON FRI AUG 24 2007 BY ADDY DUGDALE
gizmodo.com/tag/origami-for-sailors for pictures of the big folded paper boat
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Post by Roderick on Jan 30, 2008 13:26:57 GMT 12
Viking refers to a member of the Norse (Scandinavian) seafaring traders, warriors and pirates who raided and colonized wide areas of Europe from the late 8th to the 11th century. These Norsemen used their famed longships to travel as far east as Constantinople and the Volga River in Russia, and as far west as Newfoundland. This period of Viking expansion is commonly referred to as the Viking Age of Scandinavian History.[1]
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Post by peterj on Jan 30, 2008 21:44:47 GMT 12
Whisky Transport Ships
The most famous of these had a slight mishap and became the foundation of the novel "Whisky Galore" by Compton Mackenzie which was subsequently adapted for the cinema under the title Whisky Galore!.
Plot summary of the novel During World War II, a cargo vessel (S.S. Cabinet Minister) is wrecked off a remote Scottish island group — Great Todday and Little Todday — with fifty thousand cases of whisky aboard. Due to wartime rationing, the thirsty islanders had nearly run out of the "water of life" and see this as an unexpected godsend. They manage to salvage several hundred cases before the ship sinks. But it is not all clear sailing. They must thwart the efforts of the authorities to confiscate the liquor, particularly in the shape of misguided, pompous English Home Guard Captain Paul Waggett. A cat-and-mouse battle of wits ensues.
Although the wreck and the escapades over the whisky are at the centre of the story, there is also a lot of background detail about life in the Outer Hebrides, including e.g. culture clashes between the Protestant island of Great Todday and the Roman Catholic island of Little Todday. (Mackenzie based the geography of these islands on Barra and Eriskay respectively, but in real life they are both Catholic islands). There are various sub-plots, e.g. two couples who want to get married.
Mackenzie's prose captures the various accents of the area and also includes much common Gaelic that was in use at the time. The book comes with a useful glossary of both the meaning and approximate pronunciation of the language.
The true origins of the story The story was based on a real-life incident that occurred in 1941 on the Hebridean island of Eriskay when the S.S. Politician ran aground. The famous tale of how a group of local Scottish islanders raided a shipwreck for its consignment of 24,000 cases of whisky has grown into a legend.
Official files released recently by the Public Records Office show that it was also carrying a sum of hard cash. In all, there were nearly 290,000 ten-shilling notes, which would be worth the equivalent of several million pounds at today's prices. Not all of this was recovered from the wreck.
The Official Story
SS Politician From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The SS Politician was an 8000-tonne cargo ship, owned by T & J Harrison of Liverpool which left Liverpool on 3 February 1941, bound for Kingston in Jamaica and New Orleans.
History On 5 February, during gale force winds, she ran aground off the Island of Eriskay in the Outer Hebrides and later broke in two near the islet of Calvay. The crew were all unharmed and managed to get off the ship, where they were looked after by the locals for a while.
When the locals learned from the crew of the "Polly" what the ship was carrying, a series of illegal and later well orchestrated salvage operations took place at night, before the customs and excise officials arrived. The islands supplies of whisky had dried up due to war-time rationing, so the islanders periodically helped themselves to some of the 28,000 cases (264,000 bottles) of Scotch malt before winter weather broke up the ship. Boats came from as far away as Lewis as news of the whisky travelled across the Hebrides. No islander regarded it as stealing, for them the rules of salvage meant that once the bounty was in the sea, it was theirs to rescue.
This was not the view of the local customs officer. Charles McColl was incensed at the outright thievery that he saw going on. None of the whisky had paid a penny of duty, and he riled against this loss to the public purse. McColl whipped up a furore and made the police act. Villages were raided and crofts turned upside down. Bottles were hidden, secreted, or simply drunk in order to hide the evidence.
Trial McColl and the police caught plenty of locals red-handed, and they were sent to trial. On 26 April at Lochmaddy Sheriff Court a group of men from Barra plead guilty to theft and were charged between three and five pounds. McColl was beside himself at the leniency of the sentence, but the police (being largely locals themselves) were tired of harassing the locals who had not, in their minds done such a bad thing.
But McColl continued on his crusade, and more men did appear in court, some of whom were sentenced to up to six weeks imprisonment in Inverness and Peterhead
At sea, the salvage attempts were not going well, and it was eventually decided to let the Politician remain where she was. McColl, who had already estimated that the islanders had purloined 24,000 bottles of whisky, ensured that there would be no more temptation. He applied for, and was granted, permission to explode her hull.
The islanders watched this extraordinary action their emotions summed up by one man Angus John Campbell who commented: "Dynamiting whisky. You wouldn't think there’d be men in the world so crazy as that!"
Recent history After that the SS Politician lay quietly at the bottom of the sea, visited only by divers. But her story was not quite over. In 1987 Donald MacPhee, a local South Uist man found eight bottles of whisky in the wreck. He sold them at auction and walked off with £4,000. It seems that the people of Eriskay can still find "gold" and turn a tidy profit from the sea.[1]
At the time the Crown remained very unforthcoming about the incident, the cargo and the salvage. The majority of its hold was taken up by the Whisky but there was also an assortment of cargo ranging from baths, plumbing fittings, pianos, art silks, motor parts, bedding, furniture, food and bank notes for Jamaica. Recently released Public Records Office files show that it was also carrying a sum of cash. In all, there were nearly 290,000 ten-shilling notes (145,000 pounds), which would be worth the equivalent of several million pounds at today's exchange rate. (An idea of how much that is worth, a corporal on full pay in the British Army received 35 shillings a week).
The British government hoped that they would not get into circulation but they started turning up at banks all around the world. Some sources suggest that these supplies were being sent to the colonies to prepare for the Monarchy, in case there was need of evacuation in the war.
The locals, periodically at first, looted the hold of as much whisky as they could carry on the islanders small boats. The men wore their womenfolk's dresses on their "fishing trips" to keep their own clothes from being covered in incriminating oil from the ship's holds.
As soon as the weather allowed, Eriskay was besieged with custom officials, insurance agents and legitimate salvage companies. It is reported that the custom officials were not well received and one agent was refused accommodation by most of the townsfolk.
In April 1941 Captain E Lauriston, who was in charge of the operation claimed that the bank notes had turned up in Benbecula, 25 miles north of the wreck. The salvage company stated:
"It is reported that some of the children on the island have been playing with them and the locals, most of whom are known to be incriminated in the looting, are too wily to give anything away."
In a memorandum, the Crown Agents noted: "The local police service is in no doubt on a very, very small scale but the nature of the place and its surroundings should tend to reduce the chances of serious loss through the notes being presented and paid."
Suspicions only began to rise when an empty cash case was found abandoned in the hold of the ship. By June the bank notes from the SS. Politician were turning up in branches as far away as Liverpool. By mid July, a hundred or so had been tendered in Jamaica and almost two hundred in Britain.
By 1958 the Crown Agents reported that 211,267 notes had been recovered by the salvage company and the police and had been destroyed. A further 2,329 had been presented in banks in England, Scotland, Ireland, Switzerland, Malta, Canada, the US and Jamaica. Only 1,509 were thought to have been presented in good faith. That still leaves 76,404 banknotes which have never been accounted for. Like the whisky, their fate remains a mystery.
The wreck of the SS Politician still lies off the coast of Eriskay, although it is below water line now as the winter gales destroyed the deck and cabins. In 1988 the island got its own ‘legitimate’ pub, named ‘Am Politician’.
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Post by peterj on Feb 2, 2008 18:44:42 GMT 12
X-1Normally the designs of the Royal Navy are well thought out and effective, often a process of design evolution. Sometimes there are "one off", such as a broadside fire capable commerce raiding submarine. HM Submarine X1From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Career Ordered: na Laid down: November 2 1921 Launched: November 16 1923 Commissioned: December 1925 Decommissioned: 1936 Fate: Scrapped 1936. Struck: na General characteristics Displacement: 2,780 tons surfaced 3,600 tons submerged Length: 363.5 feet (110.8 m) Beam: 29.75 feet (9 m) Draught: na Propulsion: 2 x MAN 6,000 hp (4,474 kW) diesel engines 2,600 hp (1,939 kW) electric motor. Speed: maximum 19.5 knots (36 km/h) surfaced, maximum 9 knots (16 km/h) dived Range: 12,400 nautical miles (22,964 km) surfaced Complement: 110 (8 officers and 102 ratings) Armament: 6 x 21 inch (533 mm) bow torpedo tubes two x twin 5.2 inch guns 4 x machine-guns HM Submarine X1 was, conceived and designed as a submersible commerce raider for the Royal Navy. The idea of a submarine cruiser had been mooted as early as 1915, but was not put into practice until 1921. X1 was laid down on the 2 November 1921 at the Naval Dockyard Chatham and completed on 23 September 1925, commissioning in December 1925. MAN diesel engines had been fitted to her as they had been seen to be efficient when fitted in German U-boats of the First World War. Unfortunately, in the case of X1 this did not occur and she was to suffer with engine problems all her short life. She was larger than any other submarine previously built and besides her six 21-inch bow torpedo tubes she carried two twin 5.2 inch gun turrets - one fore and one aft of the conning tower. In theory she could make 19.5 knots (36 km/h) on the surface, and at economical speed she had a greater range than normal cruisers; but her diesel engines suffered from continual mechanical problems and she was plainly vulnerable to counter-fire from ships and bombing by aircraft. The design concept was that she should be able to sink or disable a destroyer at a range of 6,000 yards (5,500 m) with her guns alone, but in practice this was unlikely, as the low height above the water of the range-finding equipment and the unsteady nature of a submarine made this craft inherently unsuitable as a gun platform. X1 was placed in Reserve in 1933, taken off the active list in 1936, and finally scrapped in 1937. As such she became the only vessel designed and built for and scrapped by the Royal Navy between the two World Wars. The "noise" of this sub would have been horrible and it would not have been able to hide in too many places. Underwater manouverability could also have been "interesting". I have not been able to find details of its dive depth but would be surprised if it was much more than 300 feet normal 500 feet emergency.
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Post by peterj on Feb 6, 2008 18:45:06 GMT 12
Yarrow Built
Many Royal Navy ships are stated as "Yarrow Built", this is part of the Yarrow Shipbuilders story.
Yarrow Shipbuilders From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yarrow (Shipbuilders), Limited (YSL), often styled as simply Yarrows, was a major shipyard, now part of BAE Systems Naval Ships which also includes the nearby Govan shipyard. The shipyard is located in the Scotstoun district of Glasgow, Scotland on the River Clyde.
History The company was founded by Alfred Yarrow, later Sir Alfred Yarrow, 1st Baronet, in the 1870's as Yarrow & Company, Limited. Originally it was based on the Isle of Dogs in London, where hundreds of steam launches, lake and river vessels, and eventually the Royal Navy's first destroyers were built between 1869 and 1908.
Despite a move of yards, Yarrows outgrew its Poplar site and this and the cost of land and labour in London led to a second move to Scotstoun, Glasgow beginning in 1906. The London yard closed in 1908. The Yarrow company was one of the world's leading builders of destroyers from its inception until after World War 2, building ships for both the Royal Navy and export customers. Yarrow was also a builder of boilers, and a type of water-tube boiler developed by the company was known as the "Yarrow type boiler".
In 1977 the Labour government of James Callaghan passed the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act 1977 which nationalised the company, by now known as Yarrow (Shipbuilders), Limited, and grouped it with other major British shipyards as British Shipbuilders. The succeeding government of Margaret Thatcher began a privatisation programme and Yarrow was one of British Shipbuilder's early divestitures. It was sold in 1985 to GEC's GEC-Marconi division, becoming Marconi Marine (YSL). In 1999 Marconi Electronic Systems was sold to British Aerospace, creating BAE Systems. Marconi Marine (YSL) became BAE Systems Marine (YSL). As of 2006, YSL is now part of the BAE Systems Surface Fleet Solutions division.
Ships built by Yarrow This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
Built in London:
Japanese torpedo boat Kotaka 1885 Havock class destroyers HMS Havock 1893 HMS Hornet 1893 River class destroyers HMS Teviot 1903 HMS Usk 1903 HMS Ribble 1904 HMS Welland 1904 HMS Gala 1905 HMS Garry 1905 Built after the move to Glasgow:
(There is some confusion as to where the Thyella class were built as they are described as 'laid down 1905' (before the move from London began) and were launched 1907/8 (before the London yard closed)
Thyella class destroyers (Royal Hellenic Navy) (1906-07) Thyella Lonchi Nafkratousa Sfendoni Weapon class destroyers HMS Battleaxe HMS Broadsword Daring class destroyer (1949) HMS Decoy HMS Diana Black Swan class sloop HMS Wild Goose (U45) Tribal class frigate HMS Ashanti Leander class frigate Almirante Lynch 3 Almirante Condell 3 (1973) Type 21 frigates HMS Ambuscade HMS Arrow HMS Alacrity HMS Ardent HMS Avenger Type 22 frigates HMS Broadsword HMS Battleaxe HMS Brilliant HMS Brazen HMS Boxer HMS Beaver HMS Brave HMS London HMS Cornwall HMS Cumberland Type 23 frigates HMS Norfolk HMS Argyll HMS Lancaster HMS Iron Duke HMS Monmouth HMS Montrose HMS Somerset HMS Grafton HMS Sutherland HMS Kent HMS Portland HMS St Albans Type 45 destroyers HMS Daring: Launched 1 February 2006 Converted Civilian Vessels HMCS Tuna originally built as Tarantula Clyde-class RNLI lifeboats Charles H Barrett (70-001) Grace Paterson Ritchie (70-002) Royal Malaysian Navy KD Hand Tuah (F76) ex-Black Star, ex-HMS Mermaid KD Rahmat (F24) Lekiu-class frigates Jebat (F29) Lekiu (F30)
130 years of building warships and they do tend to do good designs.
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Post by peterj on Feb 6, 2008 18:52:39 GMT 12
HMS Zubian
HMS Zubian From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia HMS Zubian was a First World War Royal Navy Tribal-class destroyer constructed from the forward end of HMS Zulu and the rear and mid sections of HMS Nubian.
Nubian's bows had been destroyed by a torpedo from a German destroyer on the night of 26–27 October 1916 of Folkestone. She was taken in tow and run ashore near Dover. Zulu had her stern blown off by a mine near Dunkirk on 8 November 1916 and towed to Calais. Both wrecks were then towed to Chatham Dockyard where Zubian was constructed by joining the foreparts of Zulu with the stern of Nubian, despite a 3.5 inch (89 mm) difference in beam!. She served until the end of the war, sinking the mine-laying U-boat UC-50 on 4 February 1918 off the coast of Essex, and was broken up at Sunderland in 1919.
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3boyz&1gal
Ships Captain
ZambukaMarine Combat Division
Where there is a will, there is a way....
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Post by 3boyz&1gal on Feb 6, 2008 21:45:56 GMT 12
Alloy boat, a boat made from alloy
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Post by rose on Feb 6, 2008 21:57:29 GMT 12
I'm with you 3boyz, brass boat
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Post by rose on Feb 6, 2008 21:57:49 GMT 12
Then canoe
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